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IN
the summer of 1988 the name on everyone's lips was Tracy
Chapman. Fast forward 17 years and when her name is
mentioned the general reaction is, 'Is she still around?'.
Well,
the answer is yes. Having released her seventh studio
album Where You Live in September, she's now preparing
for her UK and Ireland tour in November.
That
said, Tracy Chapman has not been a big name in the UK
for a long time. Her greatest hits album, entitled Collection
and released in 2001, went to No 3 and proved that Tracy
was still well-remembered, but the millions of album
sales she achieved in the late 80s dwindled dramatically
over the years.
She seems nonplussed about the situation. At 41 she
has continued to do well enough in the rest of the world
- her 1995 album New Beginning went multi-platinum and
earned her a Grammy award in her native America - and
she seems happy enough just to be able to continue making
music.
Scene
"I
don't think about it in terms of album sales,"
she says. "I never had any expectation that the
sales of my debut album would necessarily happen again.
I just think it had something to do with timing and
what was happening with the music scene at the time.
"The
fact that I was a part of the Amnesty International
tour and played at the Nelson Mandela concert in Wembley
Stadium gave me an opportunity to present my music in
an international setting. Those sales probably wouldn't
have happened without those opportunities.
"It's
not about the numbers for me. But I'm glad that I've
had success as a recording artist because that success
has given me a certain amount of freedom and has given
me opportunities to shape my career, to make choices."
That
Nelson Mandela concert propelled Tracy to heights of
fame and success that neither her or her record company
were prepared for. Her debut single Fast Car went on
to become a huge worldwide hit, making No 5 here at
a time when that was an impressive chart position.
Fame
"Of
course I wasn't comfortable with that fame," laughs
the notoriously shy singer. "But I was thrilled.
It was an amazing surprise but it was so unexpected,
and I say that for myself and everyone that was involved
in the record.
"I'd
heard that the record company was hoping they'd sell
200,000 copies of my first record, which I think would
have been pretty significant. But it went on to sell
many more than that. No one was really prepared, me
least of all. It was pretty overwhelming."
Tracy's
latest album gives us perhaps the greatest insight into
her life yet. She's very private, questions of a personal
nature about her life now are politely deflected or
talked around.
But
she's surprisingly open about her childhood and what
life was like for her growing up in racially segregated
community in Cleveland, Ohio in the late 60s and early
70s.
This
is probably down to the personal nature of Where You
Live. The songs are described by Tracy as being reflections
of home, place, love and memory. One in particular,
3,000 Miles, is about an incident when she was just
13 where she was attacked by a group of white children.
When
reported in the paper the blame was placed as much on
Tracy as her attackers and the story prompted a full-blown
race riot in the city.
Race
riots
"It's
not like the attack was a one time thing," says
Tracy. "There were other race riots. Cleveland,
like other places in the country, had to desegregate
the schools by forced court order and that created a
lot of tension in the city. Parents were refusing to
allow the children to go to school, black and white
parents. It was a really volatile time.
"You
just dealt with it as best you could. When I was attacked
I did fight back, which was the only reason I think
they didn't kill me. But you tried to live your life.
I walked through the neighbourhoods I wanted to walk
through. That day I was taking a shortcut home.
"I
was walking with my friends who were a mixed group.
That was something that was frowned on by whites and
blacks at the time. But obviously my friends didn't
care, we hung out together because we liked each other.
On the one hand you went about doing what you wanted
to do, or at least tried to, but there were times when
I did in some ways have adjust my behaviour."
Life
for Tracy now is of course very different. She's a lot
less poor for a start, and based in San Francisco, she
lives a contented life with her two dogs, her fellow
residents rarely bothering their famous neighbour. Whether
she has a partner she's not saying.
But
her experiences growing up in Cleveland have made her
hyper-aware of racism and she says she still experiences
a great deal of it.
Modern
"I
think people realise they can't be overtly racist in
these modern times," says Tracy. "But I think
racism has taken another form in that it's more economic.
That's something we're seeing in the south of the US
right now, in all these areas hit by Hurricane Katrina,
the people who were hit hardest were poor people who
happened to be mostly people of colour, as well as old
people and sick people.
"But
some of it I never see because I have money and this
public profile and people do treat celebrities differently
than other people. But then there are times when that
doesn't happen. As much as I'm angered or frustrated
by it, I'm sort of glad to see it. To know that people
will show themselves. I don't want to be ignorant about
the reality of the world."
Now
she's currently away from her "real stable home
life" in San Francisco and touring the world in
support of Where You Live. It's not a part of her job
she's entirely comfortable with, and she says she's
got less so as she's got older.
"There
are some people who have chosen to make their lives
on the road, take their entire family, live out of the
bus or the plane," says Tracy. "But that's
really not the way I like to live. Not to whine and
complain, but to have a successful touring life you're
working every weekend and most holidays and you're often
away for every major family and social occasion there
is. For that reason I don't really enjoy it.
"But
I do love making music and I've had the chance over
the years to find some really great musicians. This
time around I have a couple of musicians who are on
the record and they're amazing people. When you find
great people to work with and you're playing to an audience
that's appreciative then it's a great experience."
Tracy
Chapman plays the Apollo on Monday, November 7. £25.
Call the Box Office on 0870 060 1768 or click here to
book online. Where You Live is out now.
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